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kakawuhDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:11 PM | Message # 1
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Well since 90% of the time i say: "brb smoke time" i get a billion replies telling me "you shouldnt smoke couse..." i decides to make this tread

now what is it about?
simple

give me 5 good reasons to stop and i will
by 5 good i mean stuff i cant shoot down in anyway

the price is my moms undieing love for eternety <.<

now a few things you cant use as reasonings:

price of cigs (i know its expencive as hell... i still enjoy it)
what it does to other people (couse i really dont give a crap about that)
how it effects nature (couse i really really REALLY dont care)

also you cant use the same argumentation as some1 else or some you allready used before

think carefully...

Edit:
oh yeah it must be understandable for me to take it as a serious post <.<



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Message edited by kakawuh - Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:21 PM
 
GodHadesDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:23 PM | Message # 2
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Well, as you stated in the poll, you don't care if you die, so that ends the thread here. No one can stop you if you don't care about yourself :/

And if you don't care how people feel about it, then you've voided your whole thread right there. ;p


 
kakawuhDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:28 PM | Message # 3
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Well i dont but people ca still try and make me quit. even though i dont care others might =/

and i mean as in others die from 2nd hand smoking or its gonna taste bad if i kiss some1



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GodHadesDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:33 PM | Message # 4
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Well, the first reason, in that case, would be to think of your mother. Even if your mom smokes too, theres a great possibilty that you could die before her. You would have to make her sit through your funeral due to your slow suicide. Do you want to put your friends and family through that? Do you want your mom's eyes to fill with tears and have her head filled with thoughts of "what ifs"? She would constantly be battling with herself over whether her lack of involvment with your smoking was the cause, thus, blaming herself.

It could then lead to her distraught and depression, furthering the chain of suicide.


 
kakawuhDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:37 PM | Message # 5
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that would go in under how others gets affected from it (them being sad for a long time etc.)

and fyi my mom has heavy astma so heh =/

and that was 1 reason only T_T
where is the other 4



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GodHadesDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:39 PM | Message # 6
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Quote (kakawuh)
and i mean as in others die from 2nd hand smoking or its gonna taste bad if i kiss some1

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that would go in under how others gets affected from it

I'm seeing mixed messages here. lol

Its only one, because i'm doing one at a time. So i guess i need 4 more reasons.


 
kakawuhDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:42 PM | Message # 7
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and i mean as in others die from 2nd hand smoking or its gonna taste bad if i kiss some1 etc

fixed <.<



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GodHadesDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:45 PM | Message # 8
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you can't fix your contradictories >_<

meh, lol, i see where this is headed. You're the judge of your own game. I don't think you'll let anyone win. I'm prediciting the outcome of this XD

but i'll continue later.


 
kakawuhDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 1:48 PM | Message # 9
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people never win against me >:3

probably due to my poor ability to state the rules <.<

would be soooooooooooo much easyer if you just knew what i was thinking T_T



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PhantomXIIIDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 10:21 PM | Message # 10
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Well, as Hades has mentioned already... Kakawuh's ultimately the master of her own destiny. As well, I don't see why one can be bothered with what people halfway around the world and across the Internet have to say. I state this from Kakawuh's point of view... as she has a mind of her own and no one can tell her otherwise because that's how Kakawuh is.

For me, not smoking comes from my own common sense which has been influenced by my parents' strong family values. I've also taken part in the D.A.R.E. program and gained further insight on the harmful effects of drugs; not only to myself, but to the people around me who matter. Of course, I was no ignoramus who was in the program for the sheer joy-ride of things. I gained something from the program (and I tend to look down on others who blame the program's ineffectiveness). Whether or not one does drugs (even after taking part of the education program) is ultimately up to the individual. Nurture is also an important factor (whether or not the parents give twice a damn about what their kids are taking).

Bottom line is that you have no one to blame, but yourself for the actions you've chosen. Kakawuh, you're not a scared child. You're a young adult who's aware of the situation and whether or not this "carefree" attitude of yours is a facade for something else... only you will know. As a mere friend (an Internet one to boot too), I would have concern about your smoking habits. Do I look down on you, just because you smoke? No. You know what you're up against and you're not the one to blame others for your problems (unless they really warrant criticism). If that's how you are, so be it. I've learned all too well to never judge a book by its cover.

Oh yeah, my single reason for you to quit:

I'll miss your cyber cookies =\


 
kakawuhDate: Monday, 2009-05-11, 10:54 PM | Message # 11
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You're a young adult who's aware of the situation and whether or not this "carefree" attitude of yours is a facade for something else... only you will know.

Well its simple really...
In my pov life has only 1 consequence: Death

and to all honesty the horrors of death is blow WAY out of proporsion

you may die at any point in time
it can be in 80 years sleeping in quietly
or in 5min getting rammed down by a trucker falling a sleep behind the wheel while your getting bread at the baker

thus i say enjoy life to its fullest...
dont let nobody push you around
do what ever you like

drink, smoke, have sex, kill if you want to...
only judge is you. The only person you have to answear to is yourself

personally i follow this

I see life as pointless if i dont have fun. Thus i do what i find pleasent and fun...

when life stops being fun the reason to live is gonne so ill end it there

i feel no need to live forever thus trying to be healthy has no interest for me...
the longer you do something the less fun it becomes right?

but heh i have lots of things i havent tryed yet so dont take me as a gloomie person as such

but belive me when i say:
"when i go ill take as much with me as i can"

this is probably the longest ramble i have ever done and im not sure if it all makes perfectly sence, since im just letting my thoughts go through my fingers... And it is quite dark i belive, but thats how my head works when its unfiltered...

how you might ask did i become like this?
well i will write it if i get asked =/

(wonder if this changes peoples view of this lil chat bot =/)[u][/b]



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PhantomXIIIDate: Tuesday, 2009-05-12, 0:50 AM | Message # 12
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Exactly. I apologize if I'm coming off as being over-analytical, but that's me. I believe that the world that I live in is not so black and white and that there are underlying motives. Simple is nice. But not all the time in my opinion. The thing is that many people may be taken aback by what you've said JUST because your view is frank and outright honest AND they grew up looking at the world through a different lens.

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Well its simple really...
In my pov life has only 1 consequence: Death

and to all honesty the horrors of death is blow WAY out of proporsion

Heh, for me... I'd hate to die with regrets. I think that we only accept death once we feel fulfilled.

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thus i say enjoy life to its fullest...
dont let nobody push you around
do what ever you like

I'd love to do that, but I'd also ensure that I would not harm people who matter in my wake.

Quote (kakawuh)
drink, smoke, have sex, kill if you want to...
only judge is you. The only person you have to answear to is yourself

I'm sure you don't mean senseless raping and killing, right? XD That's not cool.

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personally i follow this

I see life as pointless if i dont have fun. Thus i do what i find pleasent and fun...

when life stops being fun the reason to live is gonne so ill end it there

i feel no need to live forever thus trying to be healthy has no interest for me...
the longer you do something the less fun it becomes right?

That's a bit of a double standard, but depending on what I want to experience, I'd want to experience it for what it is and when I'm feeling my best (so the experience is even better) XD Being sick and go mountain-climbing? That's silly X3

The length of time spent doing something is irrelevant IF you find fulfillment from it. Then again, one may have to bear with some things if they wish to achieve something greater for the future.

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but belive me when i say:
"when i go ill take as much with me as i can"

Everyone wants to go out with a 'bang' of sorts and that's a typical expectation from humans in general =)

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how you might ask did i become like this?
well i will write it if i get asked =/

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I'd like to know why you've adopted such a stance on life. Go.


 
kakawuhDate: Tuesday, 2009-05-12, 1:41 AM | Message # 13
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Well lets start out somewhere

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Heh, for me... I'd hate to die with regrets. I think that we only accept death once we feel fulfilled.

Thats exactly my point... when you die, your dead! done deal. there is no after life, no heaven, no wandering earth as a (sorry) evil phantom..
You cant feel remorse. death = game over...
you might as well acept that at an early age, save you trouble later on.

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'm sure you don't mean senseless raping and killing, right? XD That's not cool.

If thats what takes your fancy... you just have to be able to live with yourself...

Quote (PhantomXIII)
That's a bit of a double standard, but depending on what I want to experience, I'd want to experience it for what it is and when I'm feeling my best (so the experience is even better) XD Being sick and go mountain-climbing? That's silly X3

The length of time spent doing something is irrelevant IF you find fulfillment from it. Then again, one may have to bear with some things if they wish to achieve something greater for the future.

Well one of my points is why look towards the future? you might not be alive to experience it anyways...

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Quote (kakawuh)
how you might ask did i become like this?
well i will write it if i get asked =/

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well since asked. ill try and keep it breif.
and no i do not wish any sort of pitty or anything like it... this is just to give an idea of what made me to well... me =/

as a kid i was never that oh so popular person everybody wanted to hang around with etc
i usually stuck to myself due to being shy and well wierd i guess (thats what i was told)

well being a loner usually lead to people seeing you as an easy target during school etc.
thus i got teased and bullied a lot from upper classmen and well the people in my class still saw me as a wierd kid...

and as any bullied child i tryed to find a way to cope with it. now i couldnt really fight, being quick to reply would only give me a beating,
teachers allways sucked at stopping bullyings... sooo i found 1 thing to do

i started to be what they told me i where: wierd.
well i probably was before but i took it to the extreams andbecame less popular and more of a loner.
but the bullies etc lost interest since i made enough of a fool out of myself

this had the side effect after we all changed to a bigger school as i now had no friends at all... and the bullies here apperently knew their way around kids acting wierd.

so to cope with this and stop myself from allways being sad i decided to shut down emotionally
pros: no emotions = no sadness.
cons: no happyness or anything else either
all i had was bitterness and hate...

though i did end up finding a few friends. the general misfits.
the people that allready then (at this time i was about 14~15) had been doing coke and other types of narcotics.
and they sold out to others
they stole, smoked pot or what ever and when ever.
and none did anything couse they where to scared

thus hanging with these people didnt really help my rep and i ended up ripping the groups apart if they annoyed me.
(all you gotta do is find out who is the leading fractions (mostly the loudest girls in the groupe) then learn what their key belifes is in somethings
and then find one they have oposit opinions on. then maniplulate some topic so it starts to focus on this in class. side against the girl who is teh easyest to tick off. make sure the dicusion gets heated and watch them bash eachother till they cant even be in the same room)
^ i can highly advertice this... was 1 of the few things i enjoyed a lot

eventually i ended changing school to a bording school (shrink suggested it).
and i keept acting like i allways did. the wierd one few people wanted to know...
but due to it being a boring school you will eventually end up talking to people.
they started asking why i was like i am and then suggested i changed myself to try and be more popular.

i tryed this and it ended up making me suicidal like all previous atempt (i know i forgot to mention it but it was important till now since im nearing the conclusion)
this made me think about why i was like i were back then. i concluded that people did seem to like me and well heh =/
and then i started to look around my school to find out what the differance between me and the "cool kids" where.
i ended up finding out that all these "cool kids" acted like the bullies back then, had a crapload of confidence and an IQ under 40...

so i thought how could i change myself so i would still be able to keep people at bay, but get emotions back...
i then found out the if i apointed myself a "god" i would be the best at everything. sure they might say something different but thats was their opinion.
I mean they could be right since i was a god; gods are as far as i knew allways right...

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i meanwhile decided to make myself some ground rules:
1. life must allways be fun. when it stops end it
2. i must allways be proud. once i lose pride in myself life must end

(there where more but i cant remember them all but the all ended with me having to die)

so to make sure i didnt have to commit suicide (i find that pathetic) i would have to follow my rules.

now this didnt make me the least bit more popular. however i felt better so why care.

eventually i ended school and went to (i guess it would resemble college)
it was on a small island and there i found bliss. an island filled with missfits and wierdos like myself.
sure there was the usually popular kids but we outnumbered them for a change and i for once found friends.
and i ended up revicing my idealls

i ended up cincludeing that death is over rated. the only reason i made that the punishment is that its the only consequence in life.
however you dont feel it after your gonne so i trashed my rule list down to the 2 rules i stated.

however getting friends for once gave my confidence a boost thus im as chatty as you see me at this point in time (blame those people)

what does this have to do with me smoking you ask?
nothing and everything.
most posts i expexted to see here was: its gonna kill you, you can die from it etc

and if you read it again i do focus on death quite a bit...
and this is what has made my mind so dark...

wow what a ramble huh ._.
heh and way off topic but i guess thats what this section of the forum is about i guess



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eberDate: Tuesday, 2009-05-12, 1:46 AM | Message # 14
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1: smoking is unattractive.
2: money not spent on cigs is more money for booze.
3: money not spent on future hospital visits is more money for booze.
4. smoking will make you sound like a man or a frog, or both later in life.
5. smoking is unattractive.


 
PsYcHoSnIpEr009Date: Tuesday, 2009-05-12, 1:51 AM | Message # 15
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I can give one good reason. I think in my state it's illegal to smoke outside. Other states are trying to pass laws like that too. You could get arrested. Good enough? tongue
 
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